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Author: penney 
Date:   11-11-02 07:29

i am not a very large person, i should say that i don't view myself as a very large person - i am about 5'4" and wear a size 12-14, i weigh about 190lbs and the body mass indicator on this site says that i am obese. is this true?? please help, if this information is correct - i need to be between 120 - 128 lbs - thats more than sixty pounds - ack. any input will help

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 Re: obesity
Author: Melanie 
Date:   11-11-02 09:58

Hi Penney,

Body Mass Index calculator on this site uses a clinical formula for obesity. This formula was derived by the government based on research data of correlation between body fat and health problems.

What they found was that risks of developing various health problems significantly increased with a body mass index over 25. Based on that, they came up with the criteria for "overweight" and "obese".

According to the BMI calculator, you will be at the healthy weight (BMI=24) if you weigh 140 lbs. I would recommend shooting for this as your goal weight.

Best regards,

Melanie
My Practical Weight Loss book that I wrote after I lost 23 pounds of fat

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 Re: obesity
Author: Anne-Marie 
Date:   11-11-02 16:35

Hi Penney,

Well, there is an interesting article by Steve Halls (MD) on the Halls BSA calculator site. That is the one that I use and also I go there a lot and link to it from my own site purely because my son has an ongoing metabolic condition and other parents use my site and like to occasionally check their childrens med's are right for size etc.

I am described as obese also, and would you believe it, but so is my son--aged 10 yrs, which to be honest with you he does not even look obese! Apparently almost ALL "ideal body weight" websites use obsolete formulas or tables created in 1979 or earlier according to Steve Halls. There is a calculator there and an explanation in more depth about what I am talking about here:

http://www.halls.md/ideal-weight/body.htm

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 Re: obesity
Author: Anne-Marie 
Date:   11-11-02 16:43

I just checked your with that and it says that your ideal body weight would be 145 lbs and that medical recomendations are between 111 lbs and 145 lbs apparently.

He has a BMI calculator at:

http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/bmi.htm

I don't have your age so I could only put in your height and 190 lbs and it also comes out at obese, but if you input 145 lbs in the weight field instead of 190 lbs it actually states that that is in normal ranges. So perhaps that can be your target or something? I am 160lbs and 5 2" and even I come out at obese though and like I said my son aged 10yrs and 128.5 cm's - 35lbs comes out as obese and he just is a short solid little boy. Very stocky that all--not an ounce of fat in site that I can see ;)

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 Just read melanie's post
Author: Anne-Marie 
Date:   11-11-02 16:44

Basically saying the same thing 140-145lbs. ;)

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 Re: obesity
Author: The Truth 
Date:   11-12-02 00:12

The Body mas indicatotor is totally off. It does not know what your actual skeletal structure is or your muscle to fat ratio. I am 6'5 260lbs with around 8-10% body fat. That is hardly overweight, yet if i were to go by all the standard BMI tests i would be an obese person with abs. You will know when you are at your right weight, never mind with those lousy BMI indicators. We are people that come in so many different shapes, different muscle/fat ratios, there is no such thing as a universal obesity test or an ideal weight for a certain height. The ideal weight for my height is 220lbs. I would be a mere skelleton at that weight.

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 Re: obesity
Author: Melanie 
Date:   11-12-02 09:04

BMI indicator does not work for people with above average muscle mass (such as bodybuilders). That's why my BMI page has a note on it:

"Since BMI calculations use total body weight and not estimates of lean muscle mass and fat, it can not determine between the overweight and the more muscular. BMI testing does not work for anyone under 18, for bodybuilders and pregnant or nursing women. "

But BMI is accurate for the majority of the population - people who don't do extreme weight training.

Best regards,

Melanie

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 Re: obesity
Author: Jamie 
Date:   11-12-02 18:29

It gives a general weight range for people, but like you said, you have to consider whether they lift weights. I am 5' 9 and medium to large framed and they say I should weigh about 145-155. I can get down to 135 and still look ok. At 135 is where I feel my best. So I agree with "The Truth" you can't really go by those indicators all the time. Go by how you feel.

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 Re: obesity
Author: penney 
Date:   11-14-02 06:06

thanks for all the input - really appreciated

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