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Author: Derrick
Date: 08-18-02 12:06
First I'd like to ask, where all the guys are. I haven't seen many posts concerning male issues, or bodybuilding. Anyway, I have a question about eating and bodybuilding. I have been reading a lot of material on bodybuilding recently, and I don't understand why probably 95% of bodybuilders fluctuate in weight. One in particular has an off season weight of 300lbs, and contest weight of 255lbs. That's a 45 pound difference! I guess I want to know why they do this. I know they eat a lot period, but what's the reason for the off season, and contest season weight. I have come to the conclusion that they do it to add mass so that their muscles are able to get bigger. I guess it sounds crazy to me because here I am trying to lose weight, and these guys fluctuate back and forth, not just 10 pounds or so, but large amounts, and they do it every year! Anyone out there that can explain it to me?
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Author: GymMachine
Date: 08-18-02 17:39
their off season is eating more calories and doing less cardio basically...its so they cover all their basis and alot of that food goes towards muscle building but alot goes to fat also...when they come up to competition they watch their diet more and add in alot of cardio so they can get cut...its a pain in the ass process if u ask me because you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time, they just take it too extremes and eat and eat and eat 2wice as much as what they should in order to gain every bit of muscle they can...fat is the by-product of their calorie surplus...if u ingest 1gm of protein per pound of body weight you will grow, dont let their methods confuse you..its also no secret they are on the juice too so things are a little easier for them when it comes to growing.
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Author: ExTrEmE MuScLe MaChInE
Date: 08-18-02 21:23
i am a product of your question on my off season i am around 290-300 then when comp. season comes i go down to 240-250 i do this because the more i eat (all good stuff usually...) the more tes. goes up and u build mass quicker i do light cardio on off season because fat loss isnt on the top of my list building muscle mass is..... so i do that an when comp. time comes up i step up the cardio 100% and do it almost everyday and for about an hour at full intensity it is extreme to do but after awile your body gets used to the pain lol so that for comp. i am trim and cut so basicly if your looking to be a actual comp. body builder than you split your seasons so 1 season weight lifting (heavy weights) light cardio and the comp. season weight lifting (either lighter sets more reps or what i do extremly heavy sets for 2-4 reps) thats basicly why we do what we do to get built faster one season and then get cut the next i unfrtunatly have taken "the juice" as gym machine puts it before i was on them for about 4 months and did have great gains but it also wasnt worth it so just incase your thinking of taking them just to tell you its not worth the heath risks well hoped this helped
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Author: Derrick
Date: 08-19-02 03:41
Well that's basically what I figured. As for the "juice", it never crossed my mind to use it. I don't even care to use any of these supplements out here. I think some are okay, but I know you can get results from not using them too (natural bodybuilders). The only thing I take is multi-vitamins, and protein powders. I may try the liquid creatine drops for a month. I know most guys who get into competition, go to extremes because of it. I don't plan on doing it for anything other than, the health benefits, and the sport itself. I also considered once I get myself into top shape, maybe getting into personal training or something. Again, I want to be on the lower end weight than most big bodybuilders. I want to be at around 210 or 220 max. I want the more slim and defined look rather than the huge massive look. I am 6ft, so I think that weight (mostly muscle that is), will be good enough for me. One other question......right now since I'm doing cardio 4-5 days a week to get my weight down, is that counter productive to my weight lifting? And should I be lifting heavy with low reps to get the most mass I can get?
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Author: GymMachine
Date: 08-19-02 04:41
well here is the grey area...alot will agree with me and alot wont...stepping up the cardio is fine...muscle is built on protein so if your getting enough protein then your creating an anabolic environment so i do believe that the cardio is not harmful...as for the lower reps your correct...some people go through the motions on 15 reps and arent 'into' it and look like they could do about 50 reps...there is no benefit to this really...if you want mass you got to lift heavy and full intensity..all my exercises are in the 4-6 rep range...anything out of that range ie either too heavy or too light...i like to do some forced reps or cheats sometimes too...i do long negetives (lowering the weight) ultra slow to keep a full contraction...anyway im getting off track..definately ditch the high rep thing it has even been discarded as the best fat burning technique of weight lifting too (although this doesnt really apply to you...the more intense the lift the more calories you burn) and lift heavy!
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Author: ExTrEmE MuScLe MaChInE
Date: 08-19-02 08:03
heavy lifting and overload training are the best ways to stimulate the muscle tissue forcing them to grow.... 4-6 is in my opinion if u want to get like me lol im about the size of triple h and i dont think thats what your going for so in my opinion you should do 6-8 if u want raw definition uhm go twice as slow on the resistance so that the muscle contraction is a huge booste for the muscle and a common mistake for most people who start is they want to be where they want to be quick and thats not gonna happen especialy with what your going for and they start with the arms, abs 1st because those usually catch the eye of people more that is a huge mistake you should always set up a good foundation of muscle on your chest,back,lats,and legs before you worry immensly on the arms and abs they will come later and when they do worry more about the tricep than the bicep another mistake made by most your tricep makes up 2/3 of your arm mass and if u dont work it out and make it grow it will look odd when you have a bugling bicep and nothing under it but flab well hope this helped
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Author: Derrick
Date: 08-19-02 09:11
Yeah, thanks that helps. Can you give me an example of what muscle groups to work together. Like for instance, Monday-Chest and what.
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Author: ExTrEmE MuScLe MaChInE
Date: 08-19-02 09:50
well u shouldnt do chest with any other muscle group becasue chest is one of the most im important so i would do like
monday- back+lats
tuesday-chest
wed.-arms+abs
thursday-legs+tricep
friday-shoulders+traps
sat.-abs (if healed from wed.)
this isnt what i do but if your a beginner at lifting seriously witch i think you are this would be my reccomendation
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