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Author: Derrick
Date: 01-21-03 04:59
STOP FALLING INTO THE FAD DIET TRAPS! If a diet tells you to do anything other than eat right, and exercise, don't waste your time or money! A lot of those diets do work, but they don't teach you any good habits.We all know what we need to do to lose weight. We just don't want to do it because it's hard and takes longer to do. Think about the fact that, most things that come too quick and easy, don't last very long! I have seen so many people get hyped up, and do the latest miracle diet, and be fat again in a short period of time. My wife went on a diet loosely based on the Atkins diet before we got married. She also worked out 3-4 days a week. She lost 30 pounds in 3 months. Guess what! When she stopped, she gained every bit of her weight back plus another 30 pounds, in less than a year! So my suggestion to anyone trying to lose weight, and lose it for good, is to eat healthy and exercise for not only weight loss, but good overall health. Leave the quick weight loss diets alone!
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Author: Susan
Date: 01-21-03 06:28
Thanks! You made my day. I started my "diet" on 1-5-03, my husband started his "ATKIN's" diet a week later and he's lost more weight than I have. ARRGH!! I have to admit though, that he's been much more miserable than I have. I have just cut back on my calories and I've tried to lower my carbs a little, (boy, that's hard). We both have been exercising quite a lot.... Well, thanks for the pick me up!!! Needed it!!
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Author: Sheila
Date: 01-21-03 07:16
Agree 100% I'm finally at the point where I'd rather take the hard/permanant weight loss road than the quick/temporary one. I'm also trying to remember how long and through how many failed attempts at "dieting" it took to get here. I know I need to be more sensitive to others who are still caught in that "waiting for a miracle" mentality. What a painful, futile place to be...
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Author: Derrick
Date: 01-21-03 07:24
Glad it helped. While I would limit my carbs somewhat, I wouldn't worry about trying to totally limit them. Actually, I have never worried about my carb intake. I've never been a big bread eater unless it's with a sandwich. I would eat baked potatoes occasionally, as well as rice or pasta. Now that I'm eating healthier, I still eat a 1/2 baked white potato, and brown rice maybe once a week. The only time I eat bread, is on a Subway sub. I would suggest you eat your carbs early in the day, or right after you work out. Eating them after a workout, is only going to use the carbs to restore glycogen, and not be stored as fat. Eating them early in the day is best, because you'll use them as ebergy, and you are more active than later in the day.
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Author: SS
Date: 01-21-03 07:52
I am not inexperienced in trying to lose weight. This is my third major go at it in the last 15 years. I reached my goal, but gained it all back within a year or two after losing it. I do understand the lure of diet fads, gadgets, supplements, and especially anything with the word quick, and easy associated with it. It is not without compassion that I say anyone who has a goal of a healthy lifestyle, and not simply weight loss will come to the conclusion that you and I, and others seem to share. A healthy weight for me has to become a by-product of my lifestyle or I'll never manage to maintain it. This is from my own personal experience, but I have been hearing it for many years.
I have also had to educate myself somewhat regarding health and nutrition. I excluded all information from sources that had a product to hawk or stood to gain from the information they provided. This gets you close to the facts that you can use to make the best decisions. I have also learned to be a open but very skeptical, trust my doctor, and to treat absurdity with humor :>)
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Author: Luna
Date: 01-21-03 09:42
I do agree with you!! Yes, even though I'm trying a new diet that some might call well -- fad. In a nut shell, I was in a really bad relationship for 8 years and through depression and medications I gained a lot of weight.... I went from 142 lbs (size 6) to 210 lbs (I don't even know what size...). I have lost 42 lbs using the body for life plan which was great because it taught me about portions and complex versus simple carbs, but I'm a results person and I needed a boost (and yes, I'm no longer on meds or in a bad relationship). So, I"m trying the absolutely no carb thing... just to get the weight off. Maintaining it is not the problem with me... getting it off is. Plus, diabetes runs in the family and I"m sugar sensitive, which means that carbs (complex and otherwise) get stored just about right away no matter what I do!! It took 5 doctors and 3 years of frustration to finally figure that one out. Now, I'm looking forward to losing the weight... as quick as I can, so that I can get back to eating a well balanced diet, including some carbs; this way I"ll maintain my new weight, just as I did my old weight, without ballooning back up. My biggest obstacle, like everyone else here, is getting it off!! :))
Luna
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Author: SS
Date: 01-21-03 11:53
Hi Luna.. I'm certainly rooting for you, and hope you get the results you are looking for. Those who keep trying, eventually do, those who don't....never will.
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 16:35
and why did she stop?
We are not all made in the same mould. Don't judge other's by what they do...and do you have to drag this up again. What IS your problem Derrick?
I don't think your concerned about people's health at all. You are coming over as a nag.
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 16:47
Personally...when any of you are able to define what "eating right" I think you may make a little more sense. Since no one knows exactly what "eating right" is though---more power to you! Whatever it is your doing I am for one wish you the best. However, fad's are fad's and how could ANY of you say your not doing a FAD diet? So your doing low fat and that is just another FAD...
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Some of us are serious about losing weight. We don't yo yo up and down all the time---just put it on ONCE and will shift it the once and kEEP it that way because we're intelligent enough to KNOW what it takes to keep it off. :)
I mean---Derricks wife for instance---it is not my fault she failed...but because she did he has this mentality that anyone doing Atkins (even if they are only cycling it a week on and a four weeks off and using their brains on weeks off to do LOTS of exercise) is brainless. Lovely...
As for quick...if I lose weight quickly...it is because of damn hard work..not sat on my backside and "trying" to eat right.
If you have the intelligence you can lose weight fast AND step up physical activity and actually learn to like what your doing. It doesn't matter how you get to your goal as long as you learn that much. I'm not so selfish I impose my views everywhere and criticise others how they reach that goal though. Thanks Derrick for starting the thread...guess I just have to accept that you have a problem with me being here using the forum with this. Well GET USED TO IT!
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Author: GymMachine
Date: 01-21-03 17:00
Cmon guys not again, i dont think there was anything wrong with his posts he didnt mention you Anne-Marie...i think what he is trying to say is that the fad diets which are the most unnatural for the body -eg near obsolete from carbs are ones which are going to be hardest to stick to and therefore have a higher amount of failure...the fact that Atkins diets or whichever diets that promote something our body isnt used to makes it hard for us to stick to it...if people want to cycle or do it full time it is completely their choice ofcourse, i think Derrick just doesnt want to see failure from a bunch of committed people who do fail purely because of the WAY they chose to loose weight when there are much easier and safer alternatives....so no beefs again!
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 17:04
Pullheeze..he doesn't NEED to mention me does he? I am the only one that posted about Atkins in the last 24 hours in answering a question on here and then immediately he get's on his, "don't do fad diet's" tirade. For goodness sake get with it you guys...it is a damn insult to read it. But then you all know this anyway...
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Author: GymMachine
Date: 01-21-03 17:09
i think its an opinion of his not an insult...there are a few people on here doing atkins now and Luna is sticking to her atkins and he isnt bashing her...i dont see the debarcle here if people dont want to take his advice they wont, simple as that
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Author: Anon
Date: 01-21-03 17:11
Jeez, mellow out.
Reading your post does not get me excited about weight loss at all.
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 17:12
I just don't need people who know nothing about the diet trying to tell me that everything I do in my crusade is wrong ok. It is supposed to be about support here. Practical support..no matter what you do to lose weight..it should be just geared to helping you KEEP it off in whatever way it takes.
Someone in this thread mentioned that their hubby was miserable on it and gloated... how sad... it's no wonder the guy is miserable, he is probably being Atkins bashed...it happens. Although he is losing weight and scientific studies are leaning more towards it the carbs junkies have to bash and bash. Why don't some of you put yourself in the position of someone losing weight successfully that quickly. Someone loses a few poubnds in six months here and everyone is praining them..then I post and say I have lost 7 lbs in a week and I am treated like an idiot...no congratulations. I appreciate that some people are concerned..but they really don't need to be--ot works--it's safer than they think and it is REALLY ok here. I am healthy, most people I know on it are healthy and fine with what I do and accept I will NOT be able to eat lot's of fat when and IF come off low carbing. Most people ARE intelligent enough to do this in fact. It's just a few that NO MATTER WHAT DIET they do will gain it back.. It's all about doing a level of activity to stop weight gain and not pigging out... and to be honest, I never have been a pig anyway. got here through yoy yoing with pregnancy's NOT by over eating. Once it is off it will stay off.
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Author: GymMachine
Date: 01-21-03 17:20
this post above is what you should have posted in the first place...its a little less 'forward'...atkins works i dont doubt that...and if u can stick to it kudos for you and others...i think Derrick is trying to warn people about its consequences though and that being whilst you do lose weight on it, there are a higher percentage of people who put it back on because it is harder to stick to than a 'diet' who allows a good portion of carbs....if you like atkins and can stick it, then thats great and well done on 7 pounds lost...i do know a little about it and know i couldnt stick to atkins that long but that is just my opinion and isnt that what its all about here..opinions?
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 17:23
But how would YOU feel reading subliminal undertones of FAD diets being bad for you health here where your supposed to be supported. if he feels that way FINE! Perhaps he can keep his thoughts about that to himself when other's are advising folks about something they know more about. It get's very depressing reading people's smug comment's...almost like they HATE people doing anything where they are having a quick loss or good results. How selfish it sounds and petty.
Like Derricks comments about his wife...insinuating that back then when she didn't know better...she was stupid or something..or like one of these women harping on about her poor hubby and wallowing in the false hope that he will gain it all back because he shouldn't have lost it so fast anyway. I feel sorry for the man!
Just sitting here and reading half of this is sickening actually. I TRY to be nice and accept what other's are doing, but they cannot oblige and be decent with what I am doing. Perhaps he should be working on the theory that it doesn't matter WHAT you do as long as you learn to KEEP it off by exercise and gaining a good level of fitness, instead of posting as he has and berrating anyone on so called fad diets...? If he is SO concerned about what will happen to most people when they reach goal, the BEST anyone could do is educate people---not criticise what they do to get to that goal in the first place. Anyone on Atkins would feel the same reading that to be honest. It is like insinuating that we must be too thick to realise why we put it on in the first place---lack of exercise and activity and eating too many carbs. On any diet you will gain if you fall back into the old trap. If you do LOW FAT and then slip and eat as you want again---duuuhhh gain weight again. Simple.
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Author: GymMachine
Date: 01-21-03 17:27
thats the thing though...he wasnt insuating you from what i can tell, you have taken it personally..he has been largely succesful in his weight loss quests and stating how he did it and what he avoided....like i said there are a few atkins here now and u havent been back that long so maybe that post wasnt directed to u at all? maybe it wasnt directed to anyone?
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 17:27
well you cannot be THAT dedicated about weight loss then...a support forum is about supporting folks no matter HOW they lost their weight. Helping them to realise HOW they gained and what will help them to keep it off. It does not involve making other's feel inferior or out of place... at the end of the day WE ALL have the same goal in mind here. Nuff said...
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 17:30
Personally...there are others here... but why single one or two out on "A" diet if your not being "personal?" Point is, within the last 24 hours I post about it and he brings it up in a negative way... and it so happens he was involved in the last "debate" about it too. It is SO obvious that he cannot just let it go and get on with what he is doing, and appreciate other's for what they do. Not how they do it.
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 17:35
and the point is, it IS personal to me actually. So if he wants to keep doing it he now knows IT IS damn personal to me. I take it ALL personally and if he gave a damn about anyone on that diet and about their feelings, he would drop it. It is absolutely tiring reading it...
There are many like me who are also on the diet who are made to feel they cannot discuss their successes with their weight loss or get support from other's because they are very wary of the reaction that they will get--it is like vehement hate directed at you and it is exhauting to just read sometimes... not good for your soul at all.
I come here for support and to be appreciated, not to have people diss the diet that I so happen to use to my advantage...jeez even my own Doctor is on the damn diet...I had blood tsts and my cholesterol level is zilch...I don't need to be told my diet is bad for me.
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 17:42
Sorry gymachine but you are wrong here...the likelihood of putting it back on depends on your understanding of what you need to do to keep it off. That has nothing whatsoever to do with which diet you do.
There are no studies to even prove what you have said here in fact..and in fact the low fat diet is more a culprit of this than ANY diet. People just lose it after losing and eat fat in inappropriate amounts again..whereas on Atkins you learn the real reson fat is stored...too many carbs. Without heaps of insulin...you can't store fat. Simple...you guys really need to read the book. Read the endocrinolgy part of it. ANY diet can fail and any weight gained on any diet can be put back on...it takes a change of attitude to keep it off no matter how you got there. I could do Atkins for 12 weeks--lose it all and THEN do weights on a normal BFL diet limiting and watching my carbs and because I understand that much I will succeed in keeping it off. As for others coming here who do it...think about it, if they FAIL, half of it will be because of the reaction they get when they post here about it... too be honest it is enough to drive you to drink! Who the hell wants to isolate people and make them feel they are doing things wrong when they can quite simply say, "Just be careful and make sure you increase your lean mucles and you will keep that weight off?"
Derrick started the thread and with a purpose in mind and it was not to make people feel comfortable who do Atkins here..full stop.
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Author: Susan
Date: 01-21-03 17:44
By the way, I didn't say that my hubby was miserable on the diet. I said that I'm happy that he can give up carbs! It's a big thing to do and I happen to admire him and anyone else that can do it.. I know that I CAN't! I love that kind of food!! I definitely do not bash him for it. Even though he has lost 12 pounds and I have lost only 8!! More power to him and more power to you!!! C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S!!! There, does that make you feel better??
Do you think anyone thinks while they're dieting that once the weight comes off, that they are just going to put it back on again? Obvisiously not-or we wouldnt be wasting our time, would we??
Support, by the way, is informing people of data or scientific information which you might be aware of, this is support and help... If you want people to tell you what you want to hear, whether it be lie or not, then maybe you should find a different web site.
Hmm, just my thoughts.
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Author: GymMachine
Date: 01-21-03 17:48
It may be true the likelyhood of people keeping it off depends on what they know about it...but most people just go back to normal eating and wonder why it all comes back on...i think there MAY be a majority rules thing here...not everyone knows how to bring back the carbs without bringing back the pounds and i think thats the cause of relapse.
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Author: GymMachine
Date: 01-21-03 17:51
Actually for him to lose 12 pounds and you to lose 8 your pretty much toe to toe with each other...his advantage on the atkins is that he will lose weight faster and his other advantage is he is male!! males drop the pounds quicker than females so your definately head to head with him despite the 4 pound difference.
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 17:55
By the way, I didn't say that my hubby was miserable on the diet. I said that I'm happy that he can give up carbs! It's a big thing to do and I happen to admire him and anyone else that can do it.. I know that I CAN't! I love that kind of food!! I definitely do not bash him for it. Even though he has lost 12 pounds and I have lost only 8!! More power to him and more power to you!!! C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S!!! There, does that make you feel better??
WELL YES THIS SOUNDED VERY NICE ACTUALLY, BUT IRNOICALLY IT WAS NOT GENUINE FEELINGS WAS IT. bECAUSE WHY ELSE WOULD YOU GO ON TO THEN SPOIL IT BY MAKING ME FEEL SO UNCOMFORTABLE AND OUT OF PLACE BELOW?
Do you think anyone thinks while they're dieting that once the weight comes off, that they are just going to put it back on again? Obvisiously not-or we wouldnt be wasting our time, would we??
YES PEOPLE DO GAIN THE WEIGHT BACK SUSAN. UNFORTUNATELY SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT BLESSED WITH SUPPORT ROUPS ONLINE OR SUPPOSED ONES. i SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO MAKE IT QUITE CLEAR BELOW THAT YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF SUPPORTING ANYONE SUCH AS I---LET'S FACE IT I DID NOTHING EXCEPT CHOOSE A DIET--BUT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ME ENOUGH TO INSULT ME AND BE NASTY. YOU KNOW NOTHING AT ALL. JUST HAVING A BAD DAY AND NOT GONE DOWN A POUND OR SO AND FEELING LIKE BASHING ARN'T YA? WHY ELSE GIVE PRAISE AND THEN BASH IN THE SAME POST. i WOULD GO BACK TO YOUR EARLIER POST AND PASTE IT HERE BECAUSE YOU DID BITCH ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND...BUT RIGHT NOW I CANNOT BE BOTHERED EVEN TALKING TO YOU HERE. AS FOR GOING ELSEWHERE...IF I DIDN;'T WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? KEEP UP THIS TIRING CHARADE WITH DEREK HURTING ME AND OTHER'S THAT DO ATKINS LIKE ME IN THE PROCESS? SOUNDS LIKE A SAD EXISTENCE TO ME.
Support, by the way, is informing people of data or scientific information which you might be aware of, this is support and help... If you want people to tell you what you want to hear, whether it be lie or not, then maybe you should find a different web site.
Hmm, just my thoughts.
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KEEP EM TO YOURSELF...MUCH BETTER THAT YOU FESTER..I DON'T WANT TO KNOW THEM DEAR. I JUST COME HERE FOR MORALE SUPPORT AND TO GIVE IT OCCASIONALLY HOPEFULLY WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU CHIPPING IN AN BASHING. IF YOU ADMIRE YOUR HUSBAND DO HIM A FAVOR AND SUPPORT HIS DIET AS WELL AS HIS WEIGHT LOSS AND DON'T BEGRUDGE OTHER'S THEIR SUCCESSES IN LIFE...JUST GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GET STUCK IN YOURSELF.
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Author: Susan
Date: 01-21-03 17:57
Yeah we're both doing well. Actually pretty quickly. My hubby gets a lot more crabby now than I do though...he misses his carbs... I know I would too..
He told me that sugar free gum also has carbs... wow, I'd be lost...
I don't know how he can do it... I can't seem to lower mine. I try and I try but it's almost impossible. So, I eat low fat..I guess it's going good...
Everyone has their ways of going about things.. everyone's different... Thank God for that.. if we weren't ..this world would really be boring, wouldn't it??
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 17:59
Males don't have the fluctuating hormone levels that we do..so no they do do better.
In response to Susan also, appreciate some people cannot do Atkins. I can't do your diet...but I'll be damned if I won't do something out of ignorance. This works for me and I enjoy the food once in every four weeks. I go back to BFL diet for four weeks after a week of Induction which is the week where most weight loss occurs.
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 18:05
Yes it does have small amount of carbs---but it is more because it has aspartame that you should avoid it as Atkins says it causes stalls. I found that so I switched to splenda. Tis only a week so I don't worry about missing carbs---what counts to me is the fat loss. It was a toss up between doing that or the Greenlane Hospital Diet doinf the rounds at the gym which is what they give to heart patients in Auckland hospital three days before their surgery to lose 10 pounds of weight. Ya see when your just dieting, the weight you lose is more than likely the fat around the organs, but when you exercise, you start to chip at the subcutaneous layer of fat just below the skin which is the stuff I hate to see on myself at the moment. So I really would like to GET IN SHAPE and stay that way..otherwise I would just diet and not bother. People who don't exercise are the most likely to put it back on.
Anyone looking at my before and after shots would see that in week 3 and 4 there is distinct difference in my weight loss. it was the atkins Induction that caused that. So I just do Induction for a week out of every month.
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 18:07
you could say the same for fat also...people will not give up cream cakes for life will they. Not if they are in the mentality that they can eat that AND carbs in wild abandon. Wherease if they know to restrict their carbs for the rest of the day--they have half a clue about making sure the cream cake does not go to the hips..LOL!
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Author: Susan
Date: 01-21-03 18:08
I didn't bash anyone. You're having a problem. Why don't you go eat a bag of cookies or something...yumm yum sounds good huh.
I didn't bitch about my husband. I'm happy for him! We're not racing at this weight loss. We're both just trying to get healthy and fit...which we BOTH are! We're just going about it in a different way. I DIDN'T BASH MY HUSBAND AT ALL. I'M ACTUALLY IMPRESSED WITH HIS SUCCESS...BUT i haven't tried it yet because the way I'm doing it right now is working. maybe in month or so when my weight loss slows, i might even try it!! wow, that doesn't sound like bashing to me...
As a matter of fact, I did lose a pound today... one pound less than yesterday.
By the way, I'm sure no-one else seems to mind what my thoughts are. So, I guess I'll be posting them as often as I like THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!
"Do you think anyone thinks while they're dieting that once the weight comes off, that they are just going to put it back on again? Obvisiously not-or we wouldnt be wasting our time, would we?? " [THE REASON I SAID THIS WAS BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THE ONLY REASON YOU WERE OVER WEIGHT WAS NOT BECAUSE OF OVER-EATING BUT BECAUSE OF PREGNANCY!!! WELL, I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT! aRE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE BETTER BECAUSE YOU GAINED YOUR WEIGHT BECAUSE OF PREGNANCY? IF I WAS LIKE YOU, I'D SAY THAT THAT REALLY TICKS ME OFF. BUT IT DOESN'T--BECAUSE YOU ARE ENTITLED TO FEEL HOW EVER YOU WANT TO AND THAT'S FINE. THIS IS AMERICA!!
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 18:23
come now...you bashed twice...so I bashed back...
I'd say it equals out...point is you get what you give in life...
"Do you think anyone thinks while they're dieting that once the weight comes off, that they are just going to put it back on again? Obvisiously not-or we wouldnt be wasting our time, would we?? " [THE REASON I SAID THIS WAS BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THE ONLY REASON YOU WERE OVER WEIGHT WAS NOT BECAUSE OF OVER-EATING BUT BECAUSE OF PREGNANCY!!! WELL, I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT! aRE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE BETTER BECAUSE YOU GAINED YOUR WEIGHT BECAUSE OF PREGNANCY? IF I WAS LIKE YOU, I'D SAY THAT THAT REALLY TICKS ME OFF. BUT IT DOESN'T--BECAUSE YOU ARE ENTITLED TO FEEL HOW EVER YOU WANT TO AND THAT'S FINE. THIS IS AMERICA!!"
Yes and this is New Zealand here, and I guess Gymmachine would say..."This is Australia." What has the mention of America got to do with weight loss support and being civil to people about how they do it? Goodness sake... what is this a place...if your not USA citizen get lost? Lovely... I thought it was a multi national forum and everyone was equal?
BTW- If it ticks you off because I say I gained weight during pregnacies-then that is not my problem--and NO reason to hate people is it? My differentiating the two was to say that BECAUSE I know I will not gain it back again once it has gone is a TIP to you or other's that are offended basically---because as I say no matter HOW you lose it to keep it off you have to EXPEND any excess fat and carbs you ate..simple! You WILL gain it back if you cannot get your head around that much and feel offended by the thought. You come across as very begrudging of anyone that is able to both lose weight fast and seldom put's it on unless they are pregnant now---I ain't going there again because I am 40 yo and my TUBES WERE TIED---did not mean YOU to take it as an insult! If you DID NOT gain your weight in the same way and from just over eating--and that is offensive to think about then face up to it. the best thing you can do to KEEP it off. Do it for yourself and for no one else and be TRUE to yourself and your life and health. Simple. I could be here all day with you trying to make folks like you see that I am human with feelings here, but I can see it would not do me any good would it? No one is going to post here and understand, so what is the point?
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Author: Susan
Date: 01-21-03 18:37
you're a bit to sensitive i'd say... I guess everyone should go thru and re-read their posts prior to submitting them because we might offend poor OLD anne-marie. Life's too short to be petty about every little thing I'd say. Obvisiously you are human and we realize you have feelings but you take things just a tee bit too personal. But whatever...I have more important things to do than to mess with someone like you. Are the people in New Zealand as immature as you are??
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Author: Julie
Date: 01-21-03 18:50
I think you have some deep emotional issues and some anger management problems miss anne marie. You say you want to give support, but I dont see you giving any, and if you are then it is only pro atkins support......where is the support to the rest of us? Are you insinuating you are right and we are wrong. Good grief. This could go on forever with as many things as you take personally. If you hate this board so much THEN WHY DO YOU KEEP COMING BACK???? Like someone mentioned before.......there are several people doing atkins here. no one is bashing them. Luna is nice, takes their advice and leaves it and doesnt get all wild crazy and hormonal on us(byt the way, thanks luna). No one points fingers at you until you start going on and on and on with your negative attitude. I am sure if you just chilled out you would get the support and encouragement you want. But there is NO ONE here that wants to listen to this garbage, so lets end it now. I am sure everyone knows the number one rule on how to be a nice person. IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY>>>>THEN KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!
Thank you and have a nice day :)
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 19:44
Actually, if anyone wern't sensitive around you, I'd be surprised. Miss, "I don't Bitch enough to bother people" Get over it!
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 19:49
Well why would I be angry unless someone was ignorant or rude to me I wonder...DUHHH! As I said get over it! Like this thread don't ya..demeaning folks and then making them out to be sensitive...I suppose you hard as nails? More macho than the blokes...I'd watch that, bottling stuff up can lead to feeding your face...and that is not good...perhaps you need to learn to be sensitive and get upset from time instead of bottling it all?
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 19:57
You have it bad don't ya? When you hate people SO much, the only person who feels that hate so powerfully is the person holding it. It chews at them constantly..the other person feels it momentarily and then get's over it as I have a moment ago... Usually that person doesn't realise that when you look outwards at people and criticise them continually, it is because you have this overwhelming need to do that because you are unhappy with yourself. I won't suggest you go SEE someone about it... Just knowing what such festering thoughts does to the person holding them is enough to know you will NEVER be happy. :)
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Author: Julie
Date: 01-21-03 20:00
lmao.........i really dont understand this psycho babble. And all I have to say is that no one was rude to you until you were to them. And Derrick was not rude to you. He was just making his opinion. And its not called bottling up anger.....its called treating people with respect.
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Author: Anne-Marie
Date: 01-21-03 20:32
How old are you? Twelve? Did your mommy just buy you the PC for christmas?
It helps when you READ. Respect...well it works two ways respect you silly little girl.
;)
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Author: sick of this
Date: 01-21-03 22:52
Ann-Marie
I think you should go back and read all of your posts. You sound so anger and upset. I don't know about anybody else but I'm sick of this.
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Author: Shagwell
Date: 01-22-03 01:26
NO NO NO - lol.
All Kiwis are not like that, please dont judge 3 million other people from a bad experience with one ;)
Hows everyone doing anyway???
Hope the enthusiasm is powering along.
I did pretty well over Christmas, I actually managed to not put on any weight, and lost 3 kilos while I was at it.
Just did lots of walking and swimming to make up for all the festive goodies.
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Author: lets_be_friends
Date: 01-22-03 04:47
folks,
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeese let's not digress from our goal-getting that flab off and liking ourselves. This discussion sounds like we're straight out of kindergarden. Let's treat each other with care, love, and respect...It's amazing how so many people from so many countries r able to talk the same language here...let's not spoil it.
Good luck!
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Author: ENOUGH!!!!!!!
Date: 01-22-03 05:57
WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STOP ARGUING AND MUD SLINGING????!!!!!!!!
I HAVE TO LISTEN TO MY KIDS FIGHT !!!!!!
I DON'T WANT TO READ OR SEE IT HERE!!!!!!
IF YOU HAVE NOTHING NICE TO SAY, THEN DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.
Opinions, are just opinions! I don't care what kind of diet or lifestyle change you are on, or have made. If it works, then wooooohooooo!!!!!!
If not, I'm sorry.... keep trying.
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